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4th Nov 2020

How false harmony can damage your business and your friendship with Will and Joel

Will and Joel are friends from university who went into business together. They put all their enthusiasm and energy into it and it grew. They worked hard and they got their rewards.

However, at some point it stopped working so well.


It went from simple to complex.


It went from being exciting and rewarding to just feeling like a job.


The spark had gone and they weren’t sure why. They’d focused their attention on trying to make the business work well again but had forgotten to also focus on their friendship.


In this episode of the podcast we hear about how improving the communication between founders is more important than trying to improve the business. Particularly if before they were founders they were friends.


Will and Joel honestly share the story of their business and their relationship as cofounders. They valued their friendship more than anything else but in creating a false harmony they were doing more harm than good.


They’ve both been on a journey of learning not only about business but also about themselves and each other. By discovering what each of them really wanted they were more able to decide where the business needed to go and how it needed to grow.


This isn’t just a story of business growth but also founder growth.


Will and Joel, because of their friendship, found the courage to be truly vulnerable with each other and through that become stronger together.


They reignited their passion for the business by discovering what they needed personally and then exploring how the business could meet those needs.

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About the Podcast

Happy MBA
Do what lights you up, not burns you out.
If you want to be the next Elon Musk look away now.

This podcast is for the new breed of entrepreneur that wants to make money, do good and be happy.

An antidote to 'business as usual'.

Hosted by Carlos Saba and Laurence McCahill, long-time friends and co-founders of The Happy Startup School, an alternative business school and thriving community of entrepreneurs.

Back in 2012 we believed there had to be a better way than this.

And so we set out on a mission to create a new story of entrepreneurship. One where happiness and purpose came before profits.

Over the last decade and more we've built up a tribe of practical dreamers, creative visionaries, changemakers and wisdom workers that are committed to making a positive dent in the world.

If you want to do business differently this podcast is for you.

We cover some of the big questions that people like us face:
- How do I find my purpose?
- Am I too old to reinvent myself?
- Will people care about my ideas?
- How do I balance meaning with money?
- How can I find more of my dream customers?
- How can I grow my business (without burning out)?
- How can I make my business more fun and energising?
- Should I just jack it all and get a job?

Tune in for insights, stories and laughs from two old school friends that became accidental entrepreneurs and built a global movement, one relationship at a time.