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18th Oct 2020

Stop doing business start being human with Kees Klomp

This episode of the podcast is another recording from our weekly Friday Fireside show. It was recorded on October 2nd and features our good friend Kees Klomp, whom we lovingly think of as the buddhist businessman.

Kees is now Professor of Applied Science at Rotterdam University and founding partner of Thrive Institute a think tank looking to reinvent business and society.


According to him the business of business is to serve life. That’s its purpose because without life there is no business.


During this conversation he shares some challenging ideas about where the current economic system is taking us and what he believes needs to change in order for business to be truly purposeful.


We talk about how pain and purpose are intrinsically linked and we also discuss the difference between meaning and purpose.


We live in an age where the majority of people feel disengaged from their work and where the businesses they work for are having an adverse affect on our climate and environment. Kees says these are symptoms of a broken system; that system being capitalism.


However, he says that it’s impossible to change this system unless we tackle the stories and beliefs that hold it up.


And so its up to all of us to reeducate ourselves into a new way of living that’s based on interconnectedness rather than individualism - my wellbeing is your wellbeing and is the planet’s wellbeing.


I recommend you get yourself and nice hot drink and find a comfortable place to sit in order to listen to this episode because if you’re like me your mind will be blown.

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About the Podcast

Happy MBA
Do what lights you up, not burns you out.
If you want to be the next Elon Musk look away now.

This podcast is for the new breed of entrepreneur that wants to make money, do good and be happy.

An antidote to 'business as usual'.

Hosted by Carlos Saba and Laurence McCahill, long-time friends and co-founders of The Happy Startup School, an alternative business school and thriving community of entrepreneurs.

Back in 2012 we believed there had to be a better way than this.

And so we set out on a mission to create a new story of entrepreneurship. One where happiness and purpose came before profits.

Over the last decade and more we've built up a tribe of practical dreamers, creative visionaries, changemakers and wisdom workers that are committed to making a positive dent in the world.

If you want to do business differently this podcast is for you.

We cover some of the big questions that people like us face:
- How do I find my purpose?
- Am I too old to reinvent myself?
- Will people care about my ideas?
- How do I balance meaning with money?
- How can I find more of my dream customers?
- How can I grow my business (without burning out)?
- How can I make my business more fun and energising?
- Should I just jack it all and get a job?

Tune in for insights, stories and laughs from two old school friends that became accidental entrepreneurs and built a global movement, one relationship at a time.